The following interview
with John Hanna, was given in response to a suggestion made by Sunny Lewis, Editor-in-Chief of
Environment
News Service. It was submitted electronically to ENS on September 6, 2001. The primary thrust of the interview,
i.e. violence and its consequences, was underscored by the events that took place five days later
when the attacks took place in New York and
Washington, D.C. The interview is
being published here with the hope that it might have a favorable influence on those who are open to reason.
September 6, 2001
INTERVIEW WITH JOHN HANNA
Q: You've been out of the spotlight
for a number of years. Why did you
decide to give this interview?
A: I started hearing about arson
attacks and vandalism claimed by an
environmental group called the E.L.F.
Years ago, I founded the ELF. Of course
this is a whole new entity but similar in its
purpose. I felt it might be useful to
make a statement at this time. It would
be nice if the people involved in these
current activities will listen to me.
I'm fortunate because I have the benefit of
hindsight. It's remarkable how
insightful one becomes when you're removed
from the heat of the struggle and have years
to reflect on the past. Maybe the new
generation of activists could avoid
repetition of my misadventures. They
probably don't want to hear what I have to
say, but it's worth a try. I'm guessing
that most of the ELF is made up of young
people who consider themselves to be
invincible, righteous and smarter than the
cops. That's what I used to think.
Q: On November 22, 1977, agents of
the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
arrested you at your home in Santa Cruz,
California. Can you describe the
circumstances leading to your arrest?
A: I was charged with violation of
federal statutes. Specifically, I was
accused of placing incendiary devices on
seven crop dusters at the airport in Salinas,
California on May 1, 1977. There were
other charges as well relating to my
underground activities.
Q: What prompted you to take this
course of action?
A: At the time, I was frustrated.
I chose to go underground and employ
guerrilla tactics in defense of the earth.
I felt conventional methods of civil
disobedience were ineffective. I was
upset because pesticide use and cancer rates
were increasing in spite of the best efforts
of the concerned scientific community to
point out the hazards and alternatives to
pesticides.
Q: To whom are you referring?
A: Two people influenced me: One was
Rachel Carson and her book Silent Spring.
The other was Robert Van Den Bosch, professor
of entomology at U.C. Berkeley. He
wrote a book titled The Pesticide Conspiracy.
He died shortly after the book was published.
I believed that the warning signals were loud
and clear but no one seemed to be taking
heed. Here were respectable scientists
with PhD's. They were working within
the system but it seemed to me at the time
not to be working. So I decided to take
the struggle to the streets - use a bigger
stick so to speak.
Q: And that was 24 years ago.
Did your bigger stick work?
A: No. Our food is still being
sprayed. But it seemed like the way to
go back then. I founded the E.L.F.
which was an acronym for Environmental Life
Force. With today's incarnation, E.L.F.
stands for Earth Liberation Front. I've
also heard it called the Environmental
Liberation Front. We're comparing
apples and oranges here. An ELF is an
ELF - the aims and tactics are the same -
defense of the earth by means of direct
guerrilla action.
Q: In other words, violence.
Isn't that a contradiction when you claim to
be an environmentalist?
A: Yes. In truth it's not
possible to wear both hats. By
definition, an environmentalist cherishes all
life - including greedy, thoughtless people.
Turns out, I was one of those thoughtless
people too
Q: So why did you resort to
violence?
A: I justified my behavior by
claiming "self defense". In reality I
was a pissed off, frustrated sociopath.
I see that now. An incident pushed me
over the edge of rational behavior.
Back then I lived in an agricultural area.
Lots of artichoke and strawberry fields.
One day I was driving into town and I got
sprayed with Parathion. A crop duster
zoomed by me from behind. His wingtips
were no more than fifteen feet from my car.
Before I had time to roll up the windows and
close my vent, I drove into a toxic cloud.
I went directly to the agricultural
commissioner's office and reported the
incident. Nothing ever came of it.
For several hours I felt like I was going to
jump out of my skin. Parathion is an
organophosphate poison that was developed by
German scientists in WW II as a nerve gas.
After the war they started using it to kill
insect pests. The incident served as a
catalyst. The ELF was born.
Q: But the first ELF action had
nothing to do with pesticides or the
environment, did it?
A: In March of '77, ELF claimed
responsibility for shooting the windows out
of U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein's vacation
home with an air-powered pistol. It was
a target of opportunity and no one was home
at the time. Ms. Feinstein was then a
San Francisco county supervisor. The
action was in retaliation for the jail house
death of a young black inmate. He went
into diabetic shock and died for lack of an
insulin shot. ELF demanded that a
medical screening program be initiated for
all new prisoners. The rationale: the
inmate was one of earth's creatures and he
died of neglect.
Q: I still see this contradiction.
On the one hand you feign concern for this
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